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. at that point i wouldn't be surprised if president obama, john boehner, and other key folks are actually locked up somewhere in maybe camp david, maybe at the white house. that's when the big talks will start. not now but in the next couple of weeks. >> back to the power move as it's described by speaker boehner. who are the strongest allies. we've seen paul ryan all but vanish here other than when we put the picture up on the committee and who is on it. who are the allies supporting speaker boehner that are team players? >> there was a criticism in the suspicion about a year ago that even some of john boehner's top deputies weren't always on board. that came about during the debt ceiling debate of 2011 where there was a lot of suspicion where eric cantor the house majority leader was on the same page with house speaker john boehner. right now as we see it seems like the republican leadership is completely unified, and that does end up bolstering john boehner's ability to make a deal or enforce discipline with the party. >> very interesting. thank you very much. governors who met with the presi
. but, of course, everybody is talking about shared sacrifice from president obama to john boehner to governor herbert of utah. their version of fixing the fiscal cliff is that acceptable shared version. >> reed wilson, thank you for being with me. i appreciate it. we're going to be right back on msnbc right after this. [ female announcer ] you know exactly what it takes to make them feel better. ♪ you make me happy [ female announcer ] that's why you choose children's tylenol. the same brand your mom trusted for you when you were young. ♪ how much i love you [ humming ] [ female announcer ] children's tylenol, the #1 brand of pain and fever relief recommended by pediatricians and used by moms decade after decade. [ humming ] bp has paid overthe people of bp twenty-threeitment to the gulf. billion dollars to help those affected and to cover cleanup costs. today, the beaches and gulf are open, and many areas are reporting their best tourism seasons in years. and bp's also committed to america. we support nearly 250,000 jobs and invest more here than anywhere else. we're working
in large part on costs between president obama and house speaker john boehner last year when the two were close to making a grand bargain. the republican plan raises tax revenue not by raising tax rates but reducing deductions for the wealthy to generate more money for the government. it also tackles entitlement raising the medicare eligibility age and reducing social security benefits. those are nonstarters for the president and other democrats who are facing a lot of pressure from unions and other groups to leaf those programs untouched. >>> we should fix it. that should be a separate track conversation. it should not be raiding social security to deal with the deficit. >> responding to questions on quitter there isn't enough spending on the deal. republicans say he needs to assess the costly programs need to be restructured. >> what i want is to get the country out of debt in a permanent way. the dig problem with us becoming greedy is not the revenue it's not the tax codes it's entitlement. >> what the plan daoes not do i raise tax rates on the wealthy. it has to be any part of any dea
deadly gas. how that changes president obama's stance on a possible intervention. john boehner offered up his own plan to avoid the fiscal cliff today. does it add up? and the u.s. ambassador to the united nations comes under fire again. this time, it's over ra wwanda. let's go "outfront." evening, welcome, everybody. i'm soledad o'brien. breaking news. president obama puts the syrian president bashar al assad on notice. the president is reacting to new notice that the regime is mixing with chemicals to make deadly gas. and today, i want to make it absolutely clear to assad and those under his command, the world is watching. the use of chemical weapons is an would be totally unacceptable. and if you make the tragic mistake of using these weapons, there will be consequences and you will be held accountable. >> assad is on the edge of president obama's so-called red line against syria. the president said the summer that syria's use or movement of chemical weapons could mean u.s. intervention, so "outfront" tonight, barbara starr. how exactly clear is the evidence in fact they are now moving
john boehned president obama, play out on a national stage, a game that i'm not sure that media gets or perhaps they. as astute as they are. this is risking everything for a lot of people. what do you make of it? and their attitudes, their demeanor? >> it sounds like everybody is trying to be right, that is interfering with negotiating that needs to happen for what is best for our country and the people who live a love this untry. >> in some ways almost a testosterone contest, you do sothing, i'm going to do something better, this is not about winning for the american people, it is about winning for the party, -- >> the mighty ego. >> i can do it betterhan you it has to be who wins and who loses. >>> it is unsettling for the american people, it interferes with the american people in terms of spending. >> except the american people have come to accept this, they are not that bothered of by it any more, they are used to the game of chicken. lou: but looking at projects, talking about 10 million people unemployed. and talking about another recession, that is -- >> credit rating already
now is a bunch of political posturing by john boehner and barack obama with the press. as we look at the market the market is holding up relatively well after a 4% rally and if you think of that we are still on the year and the market continues to go higher so i don't see any reason to believe there's not a deal in place. liz: is the fear of missing the rally now almost equal to the fear of getting crushed by the risk? >> i tell you what. anybody that has fear about missing the rally is a little misguided because all it takes is money to buy stocks and i would rather be late than right and early and wrong. >> i could not agree more. by high and sell high. you are not going to be the guy who buys it. liz: i caught the ball, you know. thank you so much for joining us on the floor show. a whole host of state leaders were at the white house talking to the president stressing the importance of getting a debt deal done before the end of the year. if the u.s. goes off of the fiscal cliff, their budgets, each of the state you live in would run amok especially the comes to funding everyday
in the clip in the opening, president obama is insisting a balanced approach and we've talked about this before, balance is in the eye of the beholder. john boehner would say this is a balanced approach, we're putting revenue on the table as well as entitlement cuts. president obama seems to be indicating balance means getting more from the wealthy and likely to mean raising rates. as he said today and prior to today, the math doesn't add up if you simply close loopholes, cap deductions, do those sorts of things. we're sort of where we always have been. it's where we have been for several years at least when it relates to congress and the president simply not being able to resolve what are fundamental differences. we talked about this before the election, andrea. the election was supposed to tell us something about what the american public wanted. president obama did win the election. you know, an event has happened as part of the many months where the public comes down on this. >> luke russert, john boehner did yesterday come out with their proposal, the house proposal. is that a n
at the white house, president obama talking about the fiscal cliff. john? >> i wanted to play a soundbite from the bloomberg interview that i mentioned to sue a few minutes ago. one yes offered a carrot to say if you do that in the short term, put revenue on the table concretely in that way, we will have a long process of tax entitlement reform that could end up reducing the rate in 2013. here is the president. >> not able to come up with a comprehensive tax reform package that gets it all done just in the next two weeks. we are not going to be able to come one necessarily comprehensive entitlement reform package that gets it all done in the next two weeks. when you luke at what ronald reagan did back in 1986, working with bill bradley and others, that was a year and a half process. what i have suggested is let's essentially put a down payment on taxes, let's let tax rates on the upper income folks go up. >> now, the difficulty of tax reform has been a concern of the white house throughout this discussion, all the way back to 2011. it's why they insisted on the top rates going up. at that time
.s. auto sales since january 2008. >>> our fourth story, showdown. house speaker john boehner today gave president obama a taste of his own medicine, putting out his own proposal for avoiding the fiscal cliff. i spoke with tom coburn this hour and he said the deal boehner's put on the table is the best compromise out there. listen. >> i'm certain that if this is not good enough for the white house, we will go over the fiscal cliff. >> if you read though, the boehner proposal carefully, no tax rate increases, which we know is a nonstarter for the president. so where does that leave us? john avlon is here to help us read through the lines of the deal, also crunch some of those numbers. first, we're talking about the $800 billion figure. that's in the letter that john boehner wrote to the president. break that down for us. >> that's right. there is no numbers breaking that down. it's a where's the beef question. bumper sticker, we have the numbers but no details. boehner's aides will say that's where the negotiations come in. the devil's in the details. they'll say look, to achieve these re
president barack obama to work on the fiscal cliff. they will meet with house speaker john boehner, governor jerry brown is actually not in the group. >>> white house is rejecting the republican fiscal proposal. and it is a counteroffer to the one president barack obama offered last week. coming up, what the white house says is missing in the republican proposal. >>> time now time to bring tara back. if anybody is headed for the bay bridge, what do you want them to know. >> if we take a live look, this happens in just a matter of minutes and i bet you it is going on right now. so give yourself extra time if you are headed into the city right now. we can show you 580 westbound and then also up in the pittsburgh antioch area, slow going there on highway 4 as you make your way towards concord. last but not least, 280 san jose and traffic is moving along pretty well. 6:07 here is steve. >>> cloudy skies, now last hour, there has been some light rain in mendocino and down to salina, it is cloudy and a few areas of fog. this system is considerably weaker than the one we have and it looks like we w
along the ohio river, coal country, belmont county, ohio, gave john kerry 52% of the vote in 2004. obama only won 44.7% this time around. if you had to look at a county that captures where democrats are doing better and better, it's probably in your home state, chuck, osceola, florida. outside of orlando, kissimmee, st. cloud, huge growing puerto rican population. consider that john kerry only won 47% of the vote there in 2004. guess where obama was this year? 61.7%. >> i challenge anybody to find another county with that dramatic of an uptick, that size of a county. speaking of counties, the bellwether presidential -- now the state with the longest streak is ohio. missouri lost its standing a couple of cycles ago. ohio, every winning election back to '64 if that's correct, right? '60 was the last time they were wrong. >> if anyone has been to terre haute, indiana, they have successfully predicted the winner of every presidential election back to 1956 and guess what the total was this year? it's one of the first counties to report votes on election night, too, 19,712 for obama. 19,349 fo
. that is the sticking point. president obama wants those tax rates raised. john boehner, he wants fewer deductions, limits on deductions. that's the status quo right now of the discussion there. i want to bring you to the big board because we're going nowhere this tuesday morning on very low volume. back below 13,000. tuesday morning, here's the company: elizabeth macdonald is with us. david asman is with us. and nicole petallides right there on the floor of the new york stock exchange. china, cracking down on money transfers at wynn macau casinos. i guess that wynn stock is going to be down? nicole: you are right. we're seeing the stock down nearly 4% here. this is not good news for them overall. basically china's new leadership cracking down on fast money moving. they are going to set rules where you can't -- restrict the limits on how much money can actually be taken out of the country. there are a lot of new rules that would be put in place. all of it is obviously for responsible gambling, but it seems to be a lot deeper than that. stuart: i've been to that casino in macau. i mean totally diff
they should join president obama to extend the tax rates for the highest income earners the law professor john buckley looks at the history of the tax, plus your e-mails, phone calls, and tweets. in a few moments, a forum on energy security. in a little less than an hour and a half, 20 years since russia and the u.s. agreed to secure and nuclear weapons in the former soviet states, and a look at proposals but could be negotiations over the fiscal cliff. >> we are at the new york state museum. this is dedicated to the history of september 11 and the attacks at the world trade center. we have established the gallery to tell the story of the first moments of the attack using photographs from the world trade center site. there is a piece of steel. we put it in a place where the public can come and touch it. it gives a tangible experience. this is a piece of steel from the north towers. this is a dramatically bent piece of steel. this is within 10 floors of the impact, and you can see the openings with this piece of metal strips that would have held aluminum. every piece of steel marks which side o
interview since the election, president obama rejected a proposal from house speaker john boehner. he spoke on bloomberg television. >> unfortunately the speaker's proposal right now is still out of balance. i'm happy to entertain other ideas that the republicans may present. but we are not going to simply cut our way to prosperity or to cut our way out of this deficit problem that we have. we're going to need more revenues. in order to do that, that starts with higher rates for the folks at the top. >> reporter: the president did say today he would consider lowering rates again for the top two percent next year as part of a broader tax overhaul. the house republican plan envisions $2.2 trillion in deficit reductions over the next decade. $800 billion would come from new revenues but with no hike in tax rates for top earners. instead the plan relies on $1.2 trillion in reduced spending including $600 billion from changes in medicare and medicaid. at the white house today, the president met with a bipartisan group of governors pressing his own plan for deficit reduction. that proposal, $1.6
obama will use it and they requested the meeting with the president. they want to urge with them on the solutions for the fiscal cliff. they will meet with white house speaker john boehner. in the meantime the white house is rejecting the latest proposal. house republicans send it to the white house yesterday their republicans plan does not increase tax rates which the white house insists must be included in any deal. >>> they are trying to make california public schools green. they will update the efficiency of public schools in california. it's being introduced by an assembly woman. the recent funding would come from proposition 39 and it comes from a fund. >>> police say 44-year-old john roady robbed the class sunday night. he took computers and other electronics. police recovered some of those during his arrest. he was on probation for burglary and now he faces new charges. >>> we have a car versus a dear at the paradise east bound. it is backed up and running, here is a look at the east shore freeway and mcarthur maze no dislace, traffic is flowing -- no delays, traffic is f
obama has shown us what it looks like for the holidays, tonight is the first white house christmas party of the season. it's the white house christmas party for members of congress. john boehner, eric cantor, the top house republicans are all there at the white house alongside president obama tonight. and so e.j. dionne, senior fellow, friendliest person in the sunday morning circuit, while those guys are standing over the punch bowl, what should president obama be saying to them to get them to focus on what the country needs? >> i think i might say and do a couple things. i would have two really beautiful leather bound volumes and say to them, merry christmas. these are the county by county returns from the last election bound in this beautiful leather. you might want to study these. it's not 2010 anymore so let's figure out what to do. the second thing i'd say is this is a religious season so we think of religious folks. dear lord, give me chastity, but not yet. that's how you guys are with taxes. you sent me this letter. you say $800 million in taxes from tax reform, but we'll figure
on this fiscal cliff and there's no doubt that president obama is on the side of the 98% and john boehner is on the side of the 2%. the republican party right? i think it is as clear as that. don't the american people see that? >> i think that's why the president is going around the country to put pressure on them because in the end i mean the end, the tax cuts expire and so tax rates go up and the president comes back to congress and says you know, give the tax break back to the middle class and i don't know what republicans are going to do then. they're going to continue to try to fight for the 2%. i don't know. but he's doing it right and he shouldn't see -- he shouldn't seed the ground on that issue. he shouldn't seed it. that was what the election is about. republicans are trying to say well george bush tried that with social security. george bush in '04 didn't talk about privatizing social security. he wouldn't have won. he acted like that was his mandate. he was going to spend his capital for it. this was an e
they go up to capitol hill meeting with senate majority leader harry reid and house speaker john boehner. >> let's talk about the negotiations themselves. president obama put out his plan. the republicans rejected it. the republicans put out a plan yesterday, and the president rejected it. what should we make of this? >> reporter: well, right now it shows at least publicly both sides are fully entrenched in not wanting to budge on some very specific issues. the president wanting taxes to go up on wealthy americans, those extension only for middle class americans. republicans saying no way at all, and beyond that while they might have some agreement on other issues, those remain the sticking points. i did hear from an administration official a short time ago who told me no update whatsoever when i asked whether or not there would be some counteroffer, i guess, the counteroffer from republicans. so that remains the big sticking point, and it appears that until there's some movement on that, there really won't be an agreement. >> and before you go, i understand speaker boehner and the presi
between where john boehner is and president obama on overhauling the tax code? >> again, my job is to tell my clients what's going to happen, not what i would like to have happen, so what i would like to do is take a close look of what's being proposed, with regard to taxes and deductions, what i'm struck by is how rapidly the debate is moving away from bowles-simpson. they said broaden the base, lower the rates. the president is raising the rates and opposing a deductions and republicans want to keep the rates the same and lower the deductions. bowles-simpson had it right. i look at the logic that the white house had with regard to the idea of capping itemized deductions and i would like to look at it from a cost benefit point of view. we should weigh cost and benefits. they said they were against it for two reasons. the first was that it affected some taxpayers making less than $250,000, which is true. this would be a $50,000 cap, so the people we're talking about are people who are using way above average levels of itemized deductions on their return at that level. when i do the analysi
for watching. i'm al sharpton. "hardball" starts right now. >>> obama to boehner, get serious. let's play "hardball." ♪ >>> good evening. i'm chris matthews in washington. let me start tonight with this. the republicans have their plan, and it's great news for the rich. speaker john boehner just put it out. those at the top, the 2%, are safe. your bush tax cuts are going to keep on giving. one problem, mr. boehner, you lost. that was your position before the election, and you lost. mitt romney campaigned on keeping the tax cuts for the wealthy, and he lost. and he promised to do what john boehner is doing right now, and he lost. how about some respect for the electorate? how about seeing what the 2012 presidential debate was about? obama championed tax fairness and won. republicans championed protecting that 2%, ignoring the 47% he talked about, and they lost. today boehner said he's willing to raise revenues by the same amount he agreed to back in august of 2011, the last time they had this fight. again, he's willing to act like the election never happened. no wonder. again, he lost. j
unlikely. color me surprised. because it turns out president obama is more progressive! and a little tougher negotiator--so far. now apparently i'm not the only one surprised. when he gave his new storms on the fiscal cliff negotiations, well apparently john boehner was a little bit surprised. >> tim geithner sit there like we are here and presented this to you. what did you say? >> flabbergasted. >> cenk: flabbergasted. well, what went wrong? where do you think we are today. >> i would say we're nowhere. period. we're nowhere. we've put a serious offer on the table by putting revenues up there to get this question resolved. but the white house has responded with virtually nothing. they've asked for more revenue than asking for the whole entire time. >> cenk: that's just not true at all. he says we did this serious offer. here is the offer that john boehner put forward--butkis. nothing. he said, i'm interested in raising revenue or we're willing to do that. so how much, you want to cut medicare? you want to cut social security? john, admit it, you want to cut social security. no, no
. kennedy tied the not saturday in california. >>> things may be tense between senator mccain and john kerry but they were able to liten the mood as mccain joked by kerry's nomination to an obama cabinet. >> thank you very much, mr. secretary. >> you didn't hear the joke. he called him mr. secretary. it didn't take long for kerry to give as good as he got. >> tnk you very much mr. president. this is what happens when you get too losers. >> you don't see that very often. that's your morning ditch of "scrambled politics." >> along with continuing worry about the fiscal cliff, stocks fell monday after disappointing manufacturing numbers which sh rufr shrunk to the lowest levels in three years. shopaholics drop an average of $263 a month in washington, d.c. that's more than anywhere else in the country. >>> andrew zimmer, the host of bizarre foods on the travel channel is blasting yelp.com. he says reviews of restaurants and other businesses should be left to the pros. he claims too many people abuse the site and try to blackmail the merchants they're commenting on. >>> trial began monday in ita
it clear, they'd like john kerry and not susan rice to be the next secretary of state. of course president obama has not announced his nominee yet, but miss rice and mr. kerry are considered high on the president's list of possible replacements for hillary clinton who has said that she is not staying on for the president's second term. cnn's elise labott is at the state department to talk about it. do a comparison for us, off the bat. pros and cons for the top diplomatic post. the halls of the state department are buzzing with potential new secretary of state. both would make a strong candidate. susan rice, for instance, one of president obama's closest advisers. she was his principal foreign policy adviser during his first campaign and helped shape his world view. they have a similar world view. all of this signifies susan rice would be influential when she goes to speak to diplomats around the world and world leaders and also in formulating foreign policy, which is very good for the state department. on the downside, you see what's happening with the benghazi affair. she's likely to have
-- >> no, no. that wasn't a question. [laughter] megyn: why can president bush have ambassador john bolton, who was objected to for his frank style, and president obama can't have her? >> what message are we sending to those europeans who are in the middle of the worst financial crisis in three generations, and we send a fashion magazine editor to be our official representative in london or paris? do you think we would send ms. anna wintour, do you think we'd send her to china? do you think we would pick her for our ambassador to china? it's a putdown of the europeans if they do this. it is a putdown to them in their moment of crisis. megyn: maybe we are secretly trying to redo british fashion. [laughter] >> well, it could use an upgrade, that's for sure. megyn: when she goes over there, she's going to have a couple of things on her plate. seriously, is it an important position? what will the ambassador to great britain likely be doing over the next four years? >> well, handling relationships with one of the closest allies in american history. megyn: but doesn't it get kicked up to the sec
christmas tree. that was john boehner who lit the tree. on the west front steps of the cocapitol. where president obama will have inauguration in a couple of weeks. from the speaker bearing brooks brother to devil wears prada. anna winter raised money to get president obama re-elect and it could be paying off for her now. bloomberg news is reporting that she is on the short list to be the next ambassador to the u.k. or to france. a hat tip to the "new york post," owned by the parent company of the network. she was trying to audition by fundraisers and glossy spreads in the magazine. what do you think? quid pro quo? >> dana: yeah, i do. she is an accomplished woman. if you have a movie made that says you're the devil you'v youe something. >> greg: they made one for you. >> dana: i'll reserve comment whether she deserves it and would be a good ambassador. we talked about this eight months ago with a big event here. someone slipped it out she would love to be the u.k. ambassador. i think it could happen. >> andrea: do you think it's real or her floating her own name for job? >> greg: i wou
. lyndsay graham called it a joke. and when john baner asked what his initial reaction was, the house speaker was so angry he dropped an f-bomb. >> i was flabbergasted. for more on obama's plan let's go to dj mcpaw-paw mcwhiskers. >> that was amazing. he can really spin. you pay $35 to get him to show up. dan, when was the last time you were flabbergasted? isn't it hard to be flabbergasted? >> every time i read the business section. up and down i have so many stocks and stuff. >> say mutual funds. >> mutual funds and numbers. numbers. >> let me ask you, terry, is obama overreaching here? there is no reason to over reach here. except to beat the republicans. >> the got, their leadership they are damned if they do, damned if they don't. i know it sounds bad, walk away. you know what, walk away because you voted for him. this is what you want. this is what you get. the only way things will change in america is if there is national pain or sacrifice where people go, oh this isn't the way to do it. by the way, before you say the walk away trot out marco rubio and you can say this is what y
. they want to urge president obama to work with congress on a solution to the fiscal cliff. in the afternoon, the same group of governors will meet with john boehner. california governor jerry brown is not among the group. >>> 7:15. the owner of the drake's bay oyster company is plotting a legal response to the federal decision to shut down his operation. he said he will not give up. the operating permit expired last month at the national seashore. the company was told it will have to leave within 90 days and that area will return to wilderness. >>> oakland's largest pot club gets a key victory in court. a judge ruled that harborside medical center cannot be ejected and they cannot kick them out because it is not breaking state law. now, the landlord will decide again in federal court on december 20th. she wants them out because a federal prosecutor is threatening to seize the property. >>> southern california leaders are demanding that the county be reimbursed for more than $12,000. "the san jose mercury news" show that he used a tax-funded credit card to pay for casino stays, rental car up
be prepared. we've got decades now to manage our finances in retirement as well. gerri: that's right. john, thanks for coming on. a pleasure to see you. happy holidays to the kids. >> thank you, gerri, when we come back, is obama's refusal to compromise on the fiscal cliff going to hurt your 401(k)? and is the government putting your car at risk? aaa and my next guest says, yes, they are. we'll tell you how after the breaa [ abdul-rash ] i've been working sinci s about 16. you know, onjob or the other. the moment i couldess the retirement plan, you know, it's like it just hits you fast. you know, you start thinking out what's really important here. ♪ ♪ [ male nouncer ] they are a glowing example of what it means toe the best. and at this specialime of year, they shine even brighter come to t winter event and get the merces-benz you've always wished for now for an exceional price. [ santa ] ho, ho, , ho! [ male announcer ] lease a 2013 glk350 for $399 a month at your local rs-benz dealer. why let erectile dysfunction getn your way? talk to your doctor about viagra. ask your heart is he
with protecting the middle class. john boehner's proposal includes $800 billion in revenue but doesn't specific where it comes from. barack obama has been specific in his plan and look both sides have their plans and there's going to be negotiation, will probably end up somewhere in between. i don't understand why we can't raise tax rates on the top 1% of people if we're going to get to a balanced plan. why should the middle class pay more when we have people at the top who can pay more. >> okay. your experience as cbo director and elsewhere. the argument is being made that capping deductions whatever 25,000, 50,000, is that where the itemized deductions are, it's the upper end people who will pay for that, and that produces revenues without damaging the economic incentives, the economic growth effect of tax rate incentives. now i want to ask you, objectively, is it possible that it will affect the upper end income people without affecting the tax rate. >> you can get there. the president's budget has $600 billion raised that way. what's frustrating about this is the republicans could have gone
her final trip abroad as secretary of state, president obama is expected to announce his pick to replace her at the state department as early as this week. the white house says no decision has been made. but u.n. ambassador susan rice and john kerry are rumored to be the top choices. senator john mccain, one of rice's most outspoken republican critics has been a long time friend of kerries in the senate and there was a light moment between the two at a press conference yesterday. >> i would hope our colleagues would leap at the opportunity to do that. senator mccain? >> thank you very much, mr. secretary. >> thank you very much, mr. president. this is what happens when you get two losers up here, folks. >> meanwhile, reports say the president is considering anna wintor, the editor in chief to "vogue" to be the ambassador to the uk or france. she was the biggest bundlers raising more than $500,000 for the obama campaign. >>> that's now your top news. you know what? >> i'm trying to breathe in and absorb the last story. all right. there is a new voice joining the immigration deb
with president obama. they are both republicans and democrats. they all want to know how he's going to handle the fiscal cliff crisis. they will also meet with john boehner. boehner counter proposal yesterday. $600 billion in cuts in entitlement and $250 billion in changes in way the government changes inflation that would impact social security. let me bring in the national journal from the editor. good morning. i want to talk to you about this republican proposal saying republicans in congress want to get serious about asking the wealthiest to pay slightly higher tax rates. we won't be able to achieve a significant balanced approach to the deficit. it does have some revenue in it, even though it's not from tax increases. so what does this opening offer say about where we are in these negotiations? >> well, it seems very difficult to imagine that we're going to be getting to a deal that will handle everything that needs to be addressed before the end of the year. i think the first main thing that needs to be addressed is the question of the tax cuts expiring. and for the obama administration
majority leader, harry reid, and house speaker, john boehner. this after a 90-minute meeting with president obama at the white house this morning where they called for a quick resolution. the governors spoke to reporters at the white house for 15 minutes after that meeting and we'll show you as much as we can until the house gavels in in just a few minutes. >> well, goorn, everybody. i'm jack, the chair of the national governors association, the governor of delaware, joined by governor fallen of oklahoma, she's the vice chair -- governor fallin of oklahoma, she's the vice chair. the governor of arkansas. we are three democrats and three republicans. we just had what i would say was a very good meeting with the president. we came in part to make sure that the voices and the issues that we face as governors in states are heard and considered as part of the discussions going on here in washington. the president was very open to that. said we would continue to have a seat at the table. we talked about some of the issues that we often focus on as gompors. one of those being opportunities for fle
you. >> sticking with the cliff, governors are set to meet with president obama and congressional leaders. the meeting coming one day after the white house rejected a republican plan for averting the cliff. chi chief washington correspondent john harwood is outside of the white house this morning. how do business leaders change the equation? >> reporter: the president is trying to orchestrate a consensus behind his approach to deficit reduction. this is a group part of the national governors association executive committee. a diverse group. he carried three states he represents and governors include scott walker, leader of conservative government reform movement going after public employee pensions and shrink government obligations that way. governors are pragmatic. the president is trying to make the case if you look at polls and revenue needs of the government and ageing of our population, the pragmatic thing to do is trim entitlements. the significance of speaker boehner's offer yesterday he put specifics on entitlements on the table. they are significant raising the medicare e
. >> jennifer: he's totally right by that, by the way. president obama reiterated that he's on board with entitlement reform and cuts but the republicans have to budge on tax rates for the wealthy. harry reid had this for the republicans. >> i sympathize sympathize with john boehner. the tea party has a firm grip on the republican party. we are not going to twist ourselves into contortions to please a vocal minority of the tea party. >> jennifer: that's fascinating a new approach for harry reid feeling sorry for john boehner. i'm not sure how john boehner feels about that. with me is karl frisch in washington and donny welcome back inside "the war room"." >> it's a party. >> jennifer: yeah, all good stuff. karl i'll start with you. how should democrats be handling this tea party revolt? should they do more to assist speaker boehner? >> we should be throwing gas on the fire. this is an emporer with no clothes. when we were pushed to fiscal cliff it was because john boehner promised something to the president and could not get members of his caucus do the right thing for the american p
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